Some things about the rules and other things

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

... In court, the 20-30 match i played, in 15 the 3 spawn doors are covered by jaffas, goaulds healing the jaffas and ashraks at spawn doors....

Tell me how u can exit from this situation...

With turrets impossible u plant a turret inmediatly its destroyed, with commando? HA! with this lag u have a lot of luck if make 1 impact with the pistol or sniper, with soldiers? when u approach to your spawn door the blasts of jaffas are draining fast your life.. , scientists? well the poison drain enemy´s life but the goa´uld are healing constantly... so... this means we need other solution.. and this solution is implement a "Anti spawn camping"

The problem is that your thinking of exiting by yourself.. If your team worked together to come out where the enemy was the weakest you can push through no problem and flank SL. I Have seen it many times.. usually before I backstab 4 of you ... but I have seen it work countless times.

Yeah but when u have a Jaffa shooting through the shield... and the "weakness" well... if ashraks are waiting at sides of doors... u can push but when u move 1 meter away from shield are backstabbed by ashraks

The problem i seeing here is... no body like solutions about the spawn camping... because all like profit this unfair gameplay... but this need stopped..

I made it spawn camping too.. but now i don´t make.. and when i play on SGC map i every time say "Don´t go to Stargate room" i´m sure someone can tell u perfectly..

If someone see me on some Spawn camp its generally on amarna playing as ashrak and only use the "auto health device" because its funny see people shooting around, but i don´t kill´em.. without exception of Realazthat xD

I have never seen any oposing team manage to camp all three spawn doors and even if this were true, you as a Team decide which is the easiest to take out and you all rush through at once and retake it together, as the oposing team is split between three doors, you have less to deal with and you would have made it out

Originally Posted by Ben_Maxwell

I have never seen any oposing team manage to camp all three spawn doors and even if this were true, you as a Team decide which is the easiest to take out and you all rush through at once and retake it together, as the oposing team is split between three doors, you have less to deal with and you would have made it out

Maybe you no, but i see it as SGC and SL ( as ashrak .. ) im sure someone of the other players can tell u

I have been spawn camped in every TPS/FPS I have ever played. It is going to happen and the only thing I have seen to stop it is having server admins on 24/7. Even then it becomes messy because of personality issues. At least with this game the spawn areas are protected against incoming fire and there are multiple exits to take. So grab a few buddies and find an exit that is lightly guarded and make a run for it. Flanking spawn campers is great fun and a good way to rack up serious points. Time after time I have seen the team being camped win the map. This game is all about teamwork, sticking together, and not dying.

As for the bugs and lag, these things take time to work out. At least with these guys they admit there are bugs and are working on fixing them. In my book that puts them in front of about 90% of the software dev companies out there.

So relax, nothing is ever perfect. Everyone is here to have fun and blow off steam so there is not point getting worked up about a silly game. I have other things in my life that give me 1000x more headache! Like the check I am about to send to my health insurance company. It is more then all of my other bills combined and I still have doctor bills to pay. That is with just normal visits and stuff. Grrrrr!

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

How u can say "Intolerant" to a players that are playing 6 month with constant lag, bugs and spawn camping...

I'm going to bite on this one. I am in the euro zone, yes I get some lag, that is down to loads of factors, your ISP, connection speed, servers, routing etc. I can still play a great game, even against people close to the servers in the states.

I can be open about this, as it does say QA Tester next to my name. I've been testing/playing this game a lot longer than 6 months (You won't believe the number of hours the devs/testers put in). I still enjoy it, yes lag issues are out there. But it does not frustrate me, it empowers me with different tactics.

As for spawn camping I don't do it, or follow my team to do it, unless I'm testing something.

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As i said all like take profit about spawn camping...

FlackJack... when u die a lot of times on the exit of your spawn camp... what do you feel??

Or this other... if the spawn camp is a normal part of the game.. why the devs block the zone of spawn camp to place turrets, claymores or poison? why?

So or are a favor of spawn camping or are anti-spawn camping... but both no..

Or implement some really anti-spawn camp... or take off the existent spawn zone pro.tection from poison, turret and claymore..

EDIT: I can´t say "##########" only can say prot.ection wtf???

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

FlackJack... when u die a lot of times on the exit of your spawn camp... what do you feel??

Challenged, if you get knocked down pick yourself back up and try again. Or try a different approach. If it becomes to much or not in the mood, I pick another map. I have even left games mid-point when things become extremely unbalanced. Hard to camp a team when everyone leaves.

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

Or this other... if the spawn camp is a normal part of the game.. why the devs block the zone of spawn camp to place turrets, claymores or poison? why?

Because if I was the one camping the door, you would never get past me. So three SCI girls could lock out the entire SL team. Also the poison can/could pass through the spawn barrier. I did it by "accident" ended up giving the dude a freebie kill because of it.

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

So or are a favor of spawn camping or are anti-spawn camping... but both no..

Frankly this game does not have the ability to spawn camp. I would refer you to here on a more descriptive meaning of spawn camping. In some cultures spawn camping is the general method people prefer to play. I would refer you to the War Rock game as an example. In the end people either love it or hate it.

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

EDIT: I can´t say "##########" only can say prot.ection wtf???

I agree the chat filters are ridiculous. I can't even say hello, end up having to say howdy.

1st of all with reference to filter... i cant say prot.ection in the forum.. how can be bad word pro.tection, its a joke?

I know perfectly what does mean "spawn camping" and "Respawner" (like say the same) but thx

Then.. all we can try understand... 3 scis using turrets on Sl spawn is bad.. but all SL team on the 3 spawn doors of SGC.. is good. "Yeah so nice, good job... you know what is good and what is bad... 10 points bro!!" (ironic comment)
Are u kidding me? or maybe you only play as SL? or you take profit with spawn camping?

U can say all u like but take profit of spawn camp its unfair play... and its same or more crawling than exploit bugs

Make the pro.tection of zone on spawn camp does mean "make spawn camping is bad" because if was good this protec.tion never exists...

Then... or take off this protecti.on or implement one real good protec.tion anti-spawn camping, but this can´t be continued at this form

Stick 3 sci with turetts at the door with me =) 3 Free kills

I think there's a lot of hypocrisy here. ppl dont want to admit that spawn camping is a very nasty way to win a round, cause that's easy and u get a lot of frags, but if you are in the other side, this sucks, coz u cant even go out of ur base. u say teamwork, but 90% of times that the other team makes spawn camping, there isnt a lot of team that cant help you, coz ppl left the game if they cant even try to do something.

Originally Posted by -=Sokar=-

Stick 3 sci with turetts at the door with me =) 3 Free kills

Sokar this is a little more seriusly than this... and of course u dont kill me

While there is spawn camping SGC are high on the scale of defensive tactics. You can lay down claymores with Turrets to counter Ashrak. you can Nade with several soldiers to clear a path. You can poison cloud with multiple Scientist.. You are room clearers and defensive specialist.. just think Pirmess SGC always bunkers down inside there base with snipers laying claymores and chilling on the Tech porch. with Scientist laying turrets for multiple area coverage and Soldiers to bait people in with sci ready to poison.

Originally Posted by -=Sokar=-

While there is spawn camping SGC are high on the scale of defensive tactics. You can lay down claymores with Turrets to counter Ashrak. you can Nade with several soldiers to clear a path. You can poison cloud with multiple Scientist.. You are room clearers and defensive specialist.. just think Pirmess SGC always bunkers down inside there base with snipers laying claymores and chilling on the Tech porch. with Scientist laying turrets for multiple area coverage and Soldiers to bait people in with sci ready to poison.

You can health the jaffa with damage blast to 75, use the wave of hand device... etc..

Best spawn camp fix: add much more Ways to get out of the door. they can't camp them all

I think my option is better because u can be sure that the spawn campers stop inmediatly

Your idea of being invincible is quite a good idea, so long as the invincibility only lasts maybe 5 secs after leaving the spawn area. The only problem I have with this is the exploit it could cause on Pirames, because you can stand in your spawn and shoot from it, and that is bad enough already .... without being invincible on top ...

By this i said other option...

When some spawn camper kill u, he automatically dies..

This is the best option, because has less probability to be exploited

So if I understand you correctly, if you kill someone while you are stood inside your spawn you die also?

spawn campers lol

i find the only people that spawn camp are ashraks in the sgc map
or a noob that dont know the game
but what i am finding is more and more people*not noobs its a shame u cant name and shame* are going straight to the other spawn even if they are losein the securepionts part on sgc map
but even that dont bother me cos im on the 3rd piont and it aint me that there killin and to them people learn if u die twice at spawn on the 3rd be aware....

what i will say is that on temple u cant spray the sci poison around there doors but an ashrak can stand there and knife u the moment u leave the door ..*only one does it to me but hes cool and has the skill 2 pull off*..

but what u could do is make all weapons/knife deactive around a certon distance around the spawn areas*part from prima*.. that would make it more fair or intresting.

apart from that

get some skill or get pwned simple... learn from every match u play..


oh and as sci my money would be on ALIENSPAIN..even if the other dude is ashrak ..

Originally Posted by Ben_Maxwell

So if I understand you correctly, if you kill someone while you are stood inside your spawn you die also?

More easly: U exit from ur spawn, u die... ur killer die too

Originally Posted by barrierreefer

oh and as sci my money would be on ALIENSPAIN..even if the other dude is ashrak ..

Thanks bro!!

oh and i forgot to say
IF U WANT TO CAMP, GO BUY A TENT AND GO INTO THE WOODS

and another thing some people dont leave there spawn so u have to kill them there and then they moan
YOUR SPAWN CAMPIN..

WELL LEAVE YOUR SPAWN IF U DO KILL ME WHY ARE U STILL IN YOUR SPAWN WHEN I GET BACK THERE AS I COULDNT FIND AND ONE ELSE TO KILL IN THE MAP COS YOUR ALL IN YOUR OWN SPAWN..
IT WORKS BOTH WAYS

LEAVE YOUR SPAWN AND WE WONT CAMP SPAWN SIMPLE

Originally Posted by barrierreefer

and another thing some people dont leave there spawn so u have to kill them there and then they moan
YOUR SPAWN CAMPIN..

WELL LEAVE YOUR SPAWN IF U DO KILL ME WHY ARE U STILL IN YOUR SPAWN WHEN I GET BACK THERE AS I COULDNT FIND AND ONE ELSE TO KILL IN THE MAP COS YOUR ALL IN YOUR OWN SPAWN..
IT WORKS BOTH WAYS

LEAVE YOUR SPAWN AND WE WONT CAMP SPAWN SIMPLE

killing someone by bypassing the shield (red x exploit) in Leonops is classed as a bug/exploit, and you can be punished for it, as stated in Gabriel's fair play rules.

As to getting a lucky shot through an open door into a spawn in the other maps I guess that is fine as you are not circumventing anything to get your shot into that area.