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Old 11-15-2010, 02:27 PM   #1
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In lieu of recent events, I would just like to officially request the capability for us to run private servers.

While I know this issue has been raised before, I just wanted to officially bring it up again in hopes that someone is able to help.

I can't speak for the rest of the community, but I would be willing to pay for the capability to run a private server.

I hope that you will take the request into consideration. Thanks
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:33 PM   #2
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As you stated, it's been discussed a lot of times, you'll have to wait for a while to see if this happens.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:35 PM   #3
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I have to say the same. Me and some SGU guys were trying to have a private. 2 particular players wouldn't leave so we left to join another server and followed us there. It'd be a handy feature.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:01 PM   #4
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If and when this were to happen it would have to be a regulated pre planned thing. The community that plays this is small. If everyone who wanted to play private games got there own server there would be no one left on the "community" servers. i just dont like the idea of shutting people out.
So IMO yes to private servers BUT preplanned limited time on private servers.

BTW i think they have enough on there plate ATM then to worry about private games. again this is just my opinion.
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I have to say the same. Me and some SGU guys were trying to have a private. 2 particular players wouldn't leave so we left to join another server and followed us there. It'd be a handy feature.
Y im was one of this sgu guys like ok i ask them nicly but when u chage server over and over and same guys yous jump in and im ask them whit caps i realy would like them to respect that its a game for fun not for people to ruin it for me and my friends it was like 3 other half full servers why not join them but no not gonna happen a especialy guy i want to give credit to who respected us was Oniel he joined left when we asked good job i salut you Oniel like i always jump out from a match if they ask me to but when i whant
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there's more to it than just holding private clanwars. private servers will ensure that the game will continue when the official servers go offline. for this reason, i now believe that private servers should be the top priority when development resumes.
also, i'm not sure how it works, but as i understand it, private servers are the first step toward user created maps, and maps are the one thing that will spur interest and bring in new players.
and yes, it has been discussed previously, but i think most new players don't go past the first page of the forums, so maybe if you're going to just say that it's been said before, perhaps a more constructive response would be to provide a link to the old thread. (not that this is that type of situation, but i've seen many a noob practically insulted for asking a question that was asked months ago)
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:22 PM   #7
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also, i'm not sure how it works, but as i understand it, private servers are the first step toward user created maps, and maps are the one thing that will spur interest and bring in new players.
Interesting, is this an assumption?

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and yes, it has been discussed previously, but i think most new players don't go past the first page of the forums, so maybe if you're going to just say that it's been said before, perhaps a more constructive response would be to provide a link to the old thread. (not that this is that type of situation, but i've seen many a noob practically insulted for asking a question that was asked months ago)
OK. I did a search an found a link to the private server that a dev responded to http://forums.stargateworlds.com/sho...hlight=servers
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:28 PM   #8
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there's more to it than just holding private clanwars. private servers will ensure that the game will continue when the official servers go offline.
Yes, blevok you get it!

Private clan wars has 0 to do with it. My concern and hence the "in lieu of recent events" statement above, is the preservation of what is a fantastic game.

I know that this was a relatively low budget, quick production game, but the core elements, the core gameplay is there. This game deserves to be seen and played.

In my opinion the best way to grow this game and ensure its survival is to allow private servers which in turn will lead to user created maps/content/fixes/etc which in turn will grow the community.

So, in the interest of this game's continued survival, I implore the developers or anyone listening and capable for private servers.
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Right I get you now Now then, due to the court case, asset things etc, not sure that can happen, but a nice idea. Maybe costly. But interesting.
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Old 11-15-2010, 05:00 PM   #10
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Interesting, is this an assumption?
not really an assumption, more of a general inference based on what little i've read about the workings and benefits of private servers.

edit: maybe "private servers" isn't the right wording. maybe a more apt term would be "user hosted servers".
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:37 PM   #11
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there are a fair # of technical issues with them

they have already stated that if there was a push to do them in their current incarnation they would be "untracked" servers

which means that none of your ACPs would work, none of your stats would be officially logged, and any content that requires verification on the official servers would work.

like when they add armor/weapons/etc for reaching ranks.
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:49 PM   #12
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Why does everyone insist that private server will fracture the community. Has anyone here ever played a PC game before this?

Private servers DO NOT equal a locked out server. Private servers DO mean that servers are player run. SO what that means or Resistance is that MORE servers would show up on the list, and NOTHING more.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:27 PM   #13
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Why does everyone insist that private server will fracture the community. Has anyone here ever played a PC game before this?

Private servers DO NOT equal a locked out server. Private servers DO mean that servers are player run. SO what that means or Resistance is that MORE servers would show up on the list, and NOTHING more.
And hopefully, in turn, we would be able to keep our game alive!

Although, that being said, I don't want to bury it if it's not dead, but all the legal mumbo jumbo is a little scary.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:41 PM   #14
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even if they do allowprivate servers doesnt mean that u can make maps for the game that would have to be another feature the devs would have to add. making maps for a game has nothing to do with running ur own server. not even a feature really more of a walkthrough of how to create and add to game.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:46 PM   #15
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there are a fair # of technical issues with them

they have already stated that if there was a push to do them in their current incarnation they would be "untracked" servers

which means that none of your ACPs would work, none of your stats would be officially logged, and any content that requires verification on the official servers would work.

like when they add armor/weapons/etc for reaching ranks.
to that i say, who cares? sure, it's fun to track stats and what not, but i'm sure we're all in agreement that that stuff isn't really necessary. we just want to play. ever played a game of ping pong or something and not kept score? it's just fun...


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And hopefully, in turn, we would be able to keep our game alive!

Although, that being said, I don't want to bury it if it's not dead
indeed. but it really needs to be done sooner rather than later, it's a matter of survival. later might be too late. however, pre-demise it would pretty much be the situation that the nay-sayers say. they would be used for clanwars, password protected, and useless to the general population. but post-demise, it'll be all we've got.


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but all the legal mumbo jumbo is a little scary.
yeah... scarier than symboit poison
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Pretty sure we wont get private servers the way things are going at the moment.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:41 AM   #17
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im youst want to say that i need to approve blevoks lastest postes and yes private servers will change the game community but a mearon says its unlikely to happen right now i can wait only hope people is a little more nice next time im having a private match
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:11 AM   #18
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blevok, also have to keep in mind they would have to allow external access to their server browser otherwise no private servers would show up

depending on how secure/hardened their server browser/login server is, it may not be a good idea. having it internal to their network actually provides a lot of security depending on their setup. even if virtualized.

they could also make a version of the server browser that handles external server information and add functionality in the client to switch to the private server listing.

or they could just not create/maintain any public server information and you would have to manually connect and spread info of private servers by WOM which would be horribly annoying.

when i said there were MANY technical hurdles, i was not joking. nor is this list comprehensive in the least for all the things they would need to do to allow it.

it would take a LOT of work to do it and a LOT of decisions on how to implement it.

based on how often i see people asking for this and demanding/asking for new patches/content people seem to be losing touch with reality.
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:27 AM   #19
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as i said it will take a while till we get it and im sure its is a technical reason to or several but nothing that cant e fixed whit time we actuly only need two words to descripe where we stand (be patient)i will be online and offlin elittle her and there to see if it will come till then lets have funa nd wait whit what we got we should actuly as stated before sometime be gratefull for how much we have got this year especialy in this cercumstances .

ps. i also in all this wanna say that i think the devs do a great job and are more communtiv then the most.
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moving SGR to CME rather than leaving it with DCG could in fact spell the games demise

we know DCG has the means to update and maintain the game, they have done so.

we know that CME does not have the infrastructure to maintain and update the game and also do not have the people.

CME would have to start paying for all the servers/bandwidth and would need people to maintain those systems. thats IF the people at DCG are willing to move straight back to CME and not sure if they would because of past experiences.

in reality, this court order could cause the death of SGR
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true but we all dont want to give away sgr to them.
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they could also make a version of the server browser that handles external server information and add functionality in the client to switch to the private server listing.
that seems like the logical way to me. the last shooter i really got into before sgr was elite force, and that's how they did it. to expect them to integrate any user content into official servers would be asking a lot.


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even if they do allowprivate servers doesnt mean that u can make maps for the game that would have to be another feature the devs would have to add.
i missed this post earlier. i know it's a separate issue, but same as i just said, which is why i said it's the first step.
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ok blevok... you havent been paying attention...

the courts ordered that all assets that DCG has must be returned to CMG

which includes SGR

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moving SGR to CME rather than leaving it with DCG could in fact spell the games demise

we know DCG has the means to update and maintain the game, they have done so.

we know that CME does not have the infrastructure to maintain and update the game and also do not have the people.

CME would have to start paying for all the servers/bandwidth and would need people to maintain those systems. thats IF the people at DCG are willing to move straight back to CME and not sure if they would because of past experiences.


in reality, this court order could cause the death of SGR
you keep saying that making these changes isnt a big thing

technically it is a very big thing
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......i just want to bring up...

Why does prevch have an "officer of 5th race" tag under is name, seeing he is not a member nor an officer of the current 5th race clan.....

Just being picky here.... http://forums.stargateworlds.com/showthread.php?t=35602
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:39 PM   #25
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Maybe time to start looking into setting like this. With todays news.
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