Petition to repaint the gateroom as noturret

Originally Posted by Cynric

Sealrain and manuelfirst THank you for being a voice of reason here!

I play SL almost exclusively and I have never had this problem, but I also haven't seen SGC get to the gate room fast enough to line up the defense.

seems to me if they can push you back either the match was horribly uneven number wise, or horribly uneven player skill wise.

Seconded. Playing SL on the map I've never been pushed back to the gateroom. Most of the time we either push them back to their spawn or wind up fighting back and forth over the middle.

50/50. Good.

Originally Posted by Burks

Yes, it can be done. But in the time it takes for SL players to figure out whats happening and overcome it is it fair to flat-out give the SGC sci players all those free turret kills? I don't think so. There's just no real skill involved in setting a turret in a spawn.

I would even go so far as to say that nine times out of ten once the SGC has pushed back to the gateroom the match is over and there is little to no chance of re-taking it and re-capturing the first domination area before their score reaches 160.

All of this only leads to most casual to new SL players going to something they can win (piramess) and leaving the couple of us who want a challenging map to get slaughtered at 2 vs 8. ...then again, whenever this happens I just do the creepy shielded goa'uld crouch-walk around the map so I have fun either way.

There's an idea...maybe instead of making hate threads we make threads that teach players different ways to deal with things that make them QQ. Another thing I like to do when I'm QQing is go Jaffa and do melee/nade attacks only. Brutally beating humans to death in a corner really helps get the rage out.

When we get pushed back I usually go ashrak and wait for someone else to go though, then make a sprint for the control room. I usually get through and start capping the control room. When the SGC players start noticing, I'm already on my way to the fuel deposit, making them leave the area ^^

I'll try shooting throughthe gate next time ^^

Originally Posted by kanzlife

This is where i see the problem. a (good player) who plays scientist would just stand right next to the portal ready to shoot poisen. (ashrak are really ez to see) That rules out your idea for ashrak to supply jaffa coordination. Goa'uld sheilds only protect them from bullets not poison or Soldier grenade launchers so there survivability in a "Team match" is less than 5 seconds. From what i seen Jaffa fire thro the portal is extremely random. and never hits in the same spot when firing. Also well placed turrets cannot be hit by blind fire that the jaffa supplies. So i vote yes to niclamus's petition.

There is a very large no poison zone around the gate and down the catwalk

nope, i dont want that! I like the idea of heading through the gate and finding turrets pointed at it! very stargate! I wish it happened more often.

Originally Posted by Khestral

There is a very large no poison zone around the gate and down the catwalk

well, add that to your list of bugs as not working then because I've played scientist, and I've done just that very thing - poison them as they come through and laugh as they are defenseless against my turret and teammates fire.

Am I the only person who has never had to deal with SGC being in the gate room? I'm fine with it being turret-able.

Originally Posted by Floyd

Am I the only person who has never had to deal with SGC being in the gate room? I'm fine with it being turret-able.

I wish it happened in every match!

Originally Posted by Floyd

Am I the only person who has never had to deal with SGC being in the gate room? I'm fine with it being turret-able.

Nope I said the same in my post earlier =p

I say that a turret in the gateroom is no different than an ashrak at the SG spawn point? I've been knifed stepping off the stairs more times than I can count...

But that's canon. I say leave it be.

My two cents.

Andrew.

Originally Posted by andrewjhead

I say that a turret in the gateroom is no different than an ashrak at the SG spawn point? I've been knifed stepping off the stairs more times than I can count...

But that's canon. I say leave it be.

My two cents.

Andrew.

I have to agree. I've seen this a few times. I normally send out a tell when I clock it.

I said yes, BUT ONLY if the SGC is then allowed to use the manned turrets in the gate room now. I think that would be a fair trade, and the only fair trade. Other than that I think it's fine. If the SGC has advanced far enough that they have retaken the gate room then that's the fault of the SLs not keeping them at bay in the first place.

D'oh, my bad Caliaa, didn't read your post

Originally Posted by joae996

We're going to do a few things to turrets shortly that will make them a bit more balanced. You'll still potentially face them coming through the gate, and being picked up by one will still suck, and you'll need to blast it, or run. But, a team will be much more able to break turrets if they work together, and single players will have a better chance at finding and dealing with turrets.

I'd rather make such changes, than just eliminate areas where the turret can be placed, for the most part. But, we are keenly aware of the issue with them being placed on the other side of the rail, where they can shoot you on the ramp, but Jaffa blasts explode harmlessly on the rail, itself. We're looking at something creative there, too.

so get your k/d-r and accuracy through those turrets while you still can!

We're going to do a few things to turrets shortly that will make them a bit more balanced. You'll still potentially face them coming through the gate, and being picked up by one will still suck, and you'll need to blast it, or run. But, a team will be much more able to break turrets if they work together, and single players will have a better chance at finding and dealing with turrets.

I'd rather make such changes, than just eliminate areas where the turret can be placed, for the most part. But, we are keenly aware of the issue with them being placed on the other side of the rail, where they can shoot you on the ramp, but Jaffa blasts explode harmlessly on the rail, itself. We're looking at something creative there, too.

^ Thanks for the update!! You devs are awesome.

Originally Posted by joae996

But, we are keenly aware of the issue with them being placed on the other side of the rail, where they can shoot you on the ramp, but Jaffa blasts explode harmlessly on the rail, itself. We're looking at something creative there, too.

Will this also address the turret being placed on the catwalk where is doesn't take any damage from a staff blast directly underneath the hole-ridden catwalk?

Originally Posted by joae996

We're going to do a few things to turrets shortly that will make them a bit more balanced. You'll still potentially face them coming through the gate, and being picked up by one will still suck, and you'll need to blast it, or run. But, a team will be much more able to break turrets if they work together, and single players will have a better chance at finding and dealing with turrets.

I'd rather make such changes, than just eliminate areas where the turret can be placed, for the most part. But, we are keenly aware of the issue with them being placed on the other side of the rail, where they can shoot you on the ramp, but Jaffa blasts explode harmlessly on the rail, itself. We're looking at something creative there, too.

Interesting Joe. I can see people working on new tatics already

The only tme I have ever seen this as a problem is when the team are imbalanced in the first place meaning SGC has 8 and SL has 3. In that case, you're screwed anyway so it doesn't matter.

1. Balance the turrets

2. Allow them in the gateroom no reason not to

You know, I hate to do this just to prove a point, but I'm going to go fraps a few rounds of a game where myself as scientist and a partner as soldier will prevent people from leaving the spawn gate right at the start of the room, thereby meaning after they die to the rest of my team they will not be able to leave the gate room again.


This is easily 2mannable and will quite literally make SL no longer a threat, no matter the skill level and amount of players on the SL team.

Let me go download fraps and I'll try to find a way to get the videos posted here soon. I don't want to youtube them because it would just make the game look bad that two skilled players can dominate a whole team

i lol'd

I was looking for a video of where the Jaffa breach the SGC with that round explosive/stun device but found this instead which seemed hilariously appropriate hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFGteREXLXA

Gah how do u embed youtube vids?

That video is.. so awesome that words cannot truly describe how incredible it is.

Originally Posted by Weapon X

I was looking for a video of where the Jaffa breach the SGC with that round explosive/stun device but found this instead which seemed hilariously appropriate hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFGteREXLXA

Gah how do u embed youtube vids?
you dont html is diabled

sorry to say but yea thats pretty much what jaffa are.

they really shoudnt be used as soldiers maybe policemen? but not soldiers.

well atleast with the horrible weapons that are given to them. im honestly surprised earth has failed to wipe them all out . especially since they fail at warfare. "proper" warfare that is.

Originally Posted by Weapon X

I was looking for a video of where the Jaffa breach the SGC with that round explosive/stun device but found this instead which seemed hilariously appropriate hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFGteREXLXA

Gah how do u embed youtube vids?

LOL! the first 5 seconds make that video. That jaffa would win any dance contest hands down.

Oh man i had to watch it again, always good for a laugh.

According to the canon we need 200:1 odds to have a hope of winning.

Ah this one brought back memories. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUWG8p5Frs4

Next match im gonna order the jaffa to pickup your **** P90s and use them instead!