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Old 07-23-2010, 01:25 PM   #26
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If i play as Jaffa I could be in combat and i'd still go -

yty {enter##

- real fast if I got healed.
It can turn the tide fast when SL have good healers

i know there is a V+number callout for thankyou but this seems easier. the keys are closer or something haha
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:57 PM   #27
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Maybe you should go back and read the post, first off i didn't say anything about my k/d.....the one thing i said having to do anything with the points systems was even though they steal my kills i still heal them for the points, so please...

Don't try to equate what you said to team work and don't talk to me like i don't know what team work is. As a banana member we worked so well together as a team, people would rage quit and accuse us of cheating, even throw out racial slurs towards our German members b/c we worked together to own them and they couldn't stand it.....we shrug it off and continue to kill you. Now that I'm with a more active clan (the fifth race) we too continue to work together as a team to own people by using teamwork......but i digress...getting to worked up..

I wont speak for other people but personally i don't think the hand device is an "ineffective weapon" i finish many maps with a 2.0 or 3.0 k/d WHILE healing my team the entire time. I know I'm good enough i don't need your help to get my kill. Like i said if you want to "help" shoot the other people that are trying to save the one being fried that to me is helping your god. You may disagree and that's fine we just have different outlooks.

All I'm saying is as a gould if i saw you as a jaffa/ashrak trying to kill someone I'm not going to run in and fry him id wager the gould would get credit not you. I would run in and heal you or if you don't need heals ill kill another player that may be trying to help the guy your killing. So on the opposite end of that if I'm frying someone i know 8 maybe even 9 times out of ten I'm going to kill them and walk away with little damage to myself so if you want to help me kill anyone that may be running to the rescue of the guy I'm frying. Enough said.
Thats fair enough, I wasn't intentionally attacking you, it was more aimed at barrier's post TBH you just got caught up in the middle by agreeing with him.

I have been playing this game long enough to know what players would class as "Veteran" and not to help them in battle as quite obviously they don't need help, least of all mine

But on the other hand, I don't like the way some of you Veteran players treat new ppl to the game or n00bs if you will, and by that I mean treating them like they themselves are 'vets', they just get pwned in a matter of seconds.

Its like you have no respect for new members and are probably the reason no one plays as often as they used to. You seem to pride yourselves on making ppl rage quit and you essencially destroy the community.

I was in match the other day with Barrier who was playing the SGC side, they were camping the gateroom with 6 turrets (2 is overkill)! My team were all n00bs and by that I mean Cha'ti all of them, except me. I was trying to show them the ropes but barriers team just slaughtered them and claimed it was "good defence". I don't agree to that one iota!

Barrier could clearly tell they were n00bs as they didn't even put up a fight, the SGC has captured all the points before the SL knew where they were supposed to be going and then were all killed over and over again just trying to embark into the gate room.

If you don't respect your enemies how can you say you respect your own team. Kill steals is just one of those things you can't stop unless you teach respect amoungst the new and even old players, and by treating them like dirt, it only serves to make it worse.

I set a new challege to all "vets" to try and keep obvious n00bs in a match till the match ends. I bet you can't!

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Old 07-23-2010, 02:10 PM   #28
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I am in such a kill mode that if I see a enemy back I will just backstab them.. usually I don't steal kills but occasionally it happens if your haunting the same area I am in.
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Old 07-23-2010, 03:06 PM   #29
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Thats fair enough, I wasn't intentionally attacking you, it was more aimed at barrier's post TBH you just got caught up in the middle by agreeing with him.

I have been playing this game long enough to know what players would class as "Veteran" and not to help them in battle as quite obviously they don't need help, least of all mine

But on the other hand, I don't like the way some of you Veteran players treat new ppl to the game or n00bs if you will, and by that I mean treating them like they themselves are 'vets', they just get pwned in a matter of seconds.

Its like you have no respect for new members and are probably the reason no one plays as often as they used to. You seem to pride yourselves on making ppl rage quit and you essencially destroy the community.

I was in match the other day with Barrier who was playing the SGC side, they were camping the gateroom with 6 turrets (2 is overkill)! My team were all n00bs and by that I mean Cha'ti all of them, except me. I was trying to show them the ropes but barriers team just slaughtered them and claimed it was "good defence". I don't agree to that one iota!

Barrier could clearly tell they were n00bs as they didn't even put up a fight, the SGC has captured all the points before the SL knew where they were supposed to be going and then were all killed over and over again just trying to embark into the gate room.

If you don't respect your enemies how can you say you respect your own team. Kill steals is just one of those things you can't stop unless you teach respect amoungst the new and even old players, and by treating them like dirt, it only serves to make it worse.

I set a new challege to all "vets" to try and keep obvious n00bs in a match till the match ends. I bet you can't!

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Like you said fair enough, however i wasnt meaning i pride myself on making people rage quit it just happens. To be honest its normally those "vets" i see rage quit not new people.

As far as new players go i actually try to help them often, maybe you havent been on but ive gone so far as to go to a server and 1 on 1 help show them some of the tricks of the trade, encourage them to read the guides on the forums they may not know about etc etc. I want them to have a good first time and stay so we can grow the community.

newbies are going to get owned till they learn the ropes thats just part of it, i got owned when i first started just like probably everyone else, just gotta take them under your wing so to speak like i said above....but yea there are those people who camp them etc etc. There are probably those who enjoy making people quit like you say of me, which isnt true but yea there are people out there like that.

As far as the spawn camping goes i dont like it.

If im on sgc sl side i stay at and try to get others to stay around the failsafe, sgc side stay in the control room, i dont agree with camping the gate room.

Armarna on either side if people wont come out of there base ill hang out in the great stair room or the next middle room...give them a chance to come out and set up.

Whiteout ehh there is such a big spawn room and so much fighting that goes on in there on either side b/c of getting/defending the flag i dont really think you can effectively spawn camp anyone on this map.....but it may happen.

Leonops i would say is where it could happen the most but also almost unintentionally so to speak. As most the time sgc wont come out of the left spawn point they choose for whatever reason to camp right out side there spawn and in that first room.....which will lead to a type of spawn camping. IF you can actually get the sgc to move out and fight they can usually win and its a good fight either way...when they camp there own spawn they usually loose...
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:28 PM   #30
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Leonops i would say is where it could happen the most but also almost unintentionally so to speak. As most the time sgc wont come out of the left spawn point they choose for whatever reason to camp right out side there spawn and in that first room.....which will lead to a type of spawn camping. IF you can actually get the sgc to move out and fight they can usually win and its a good fight either way...when they camp there own spawn they usually loose...
Right there with you on that one. It baffles me why people set up there. 80% of my SGC loses on Leonops occur when the rest of the team (or more than half thereof) set up a camp there, which leaves the rest of us unsupported or forced into their poor tactics. As SL if you can bottle the SGC up at their spawn 9 times out of 10 you will win in my experience. I find it quite frustrating when people keep setting up there losing match after losing match.

(almost as frustrating as the match tonight on Amarna where I kept exposing myself to you to distract your turret for a Jaffa to shoot only to have the Jaffa run off to kill someone else and leave me to die. It wasn't funny at the time but I lol now)

On the subject of 'thank you' and 'no problem' replies, I find a jump fairly universally recognized as 'thank you' or 'no problem' in situations where there isn't time to type it or it's not safe.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:37 PM   #31
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I think healing goes as standard, cause when I play goa'uld I'm gonna heal you whether you want me to or not.

Not just for the points either!
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:06 PM   #32
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On the subject of 'thank you' and 'no problem' replies, I find a jump fairly universally recognized as 'thank you' or 'no problem' in situations where there isn't time to type it or it's not safe.
as well as hitting your taunt (well if you jaffa). I always do a quick v2 when getting heals even in battle, but i usually dont give a no prob, np, etc as once im done healing one there are usually others standing/running around needing my attention. So ill say it now, No Problem, my pleasure to all those who ive healed/will heal in game. GO!! !!!
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:04 AM   #33
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When I play as a Goa'uld I like to heal other peeps, and sometimes I can be very good at it. But other times I just want to go and fry people and not bother with healing (very rare but I do feel that urge especially if you are continually healing as a Goa'uld .... boring you need a change).

I find the trick with frying someone, I normally go 1 vs 1, you normally end up dying if there is more than 1 person you are attacking.

I think the healing beam on both the Sci and the Goa'uld have become harder to maintain since the latest patches, especially if you are a Sci trying to heal another Sci, or Goa'uld trying to heal a Goa'uld, the beam only seems to lock on easily if you face the healer, some times you can be pressing your healing button but the beam won't lock until you move slightly to the right or left, and if the person spins round you will seem your beam break, re-engage, break re-engage, someone needs to video it and report it ...
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:07 AM   #34
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LOL hahahahahahah
you stoped cry now Orgcon

1.i was talkin about ashraks not jaffa
2. kdr doesnt bother me at all
3. your a noob
4. i help people all the time ingame *NEWBS*
5.i tell people not to go straight to the gate room on the sgc map
and get the secure points FIRST if they dont lisern then i moan as not playing the game right

6. if i have got all 3 points then im going to the gate room to push u back .. simple...

7.. i'll call you a noob like others due to the fact .. you will hide in sgc spawn on sgc map as an ashrak when your 2-3 secure points down U SHOULD BE GETTING POINTS BACK BUT NO U CAMP ARE SPAWN..

8.. i praise my team when we play good mate.. if we have worked together on getting datacore etc.. but you are normaly not on my side mate so i think u should just shut up

it not my fault u have no skill mate and yes i do take pleasure of people rage quitting..

and dont matter when i play i always find loads of people to play and if u play the game right then its all cool..

AT THE END OF THE DAY MATE.. i play alot with BCTRAINERS, REALZ, MURPH, ZURI, VORD, D0OM..LOADS
not once have they said nova.. chill mate..
UNTILL ONE OF THEM TELLS ME IN TS..

then youll keep getting NOOB NOOB NOOB NOOB
or until u show me that u aint a noob get some skill so u dont have to camp stairs or hide in are spawn..

and like i said in another post
1. theres a diff between noob and a newb
2. man up
3. fight or flight *winner in u*
4. dog eat dog world and i have bigger teeth

OH ANOTHER THING
IVE WON ALREADY
IM IN YOUR HEAD

NEXT YOUR GONNA WANT US TO LET U KILL US WHEN WE SEE YOU ...AS ITS UNFAIR
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barrierreefer, I always seem to find your posts insulting, ranty and evident of poor sportsmanship.

I am sorry that you derive pleasure from ruining the fun of others.

Your definition of noob and newb as distinct terms is not broadly accepted. You can post the link to Urban Dictionary again if you want but it does not cite sources or references and has 219 definitions of 'noob'. There is no more difference between noob and newb than there is between newb and newbie. If you are using it as an insult then you are just using a word as an insult, not using the word in its only possible connotation. If noob was solely an insult it would be censored. I would personally prefer you just remained civil.
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umm.... actually? that was me that posted the link to define "noob" . *hides*
also, i do agree it's about having fun, not winning or losing. if my team loses 160-60 but we all had a good time, i'd consider that a match well spent. HOWEVER! if my team wins 160-158 but it was irritatingly cheap play by the other team, that wasn't a good match.
anyways, back to the ot, i LOVE healin people as a G-man and as a Sci! what makes it even better is that now i actually get points (and therefore exp) for healin mah peeps, so i don't have to worry about "oh noes! the match is almost over and i haven't killed anyone! no points for me!" instead, i can happily sit back and keep my teammates living to kill more EEEEEVILLLLL. i also accept a nice couple of crouches (a'la T-bag) in front of me as a formal thanks, and will respond with either a taunt or jump or crouches myself. yay healing!!
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barrierreefer, I always seem to find your posts insulting, ranty and evident of poor sportsmanship..
lol bothered mate...

and poor sportmanship..lol... u should learn from sokar i think hes in your clan well untill he works out that hes better than u guys *5th*and u guys lack the killer touch..

b4 a boxing match they square off with one another and run there mouth
the thing is i run my mouth but i back it up unless its againest murph

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U NOOB its a gamin term.. its highly accepted

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lol i wont put what i want to put as ill get a pm from bctrainer and i dont want that noob.. so i put it like this ..dont camp... hide and play the game right and im civil.. u dont then im calling u a noob...

its not like im takin the wee out of you your mum your dad family..race ..gender.. age anything .. i call u a noob .. MANUP
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b4 a boxing match they square off with one another and run there mouth
the thing is i run my mouth but i back it up unless its againest murph
Do it during a fight and it is bad sportsmanship and likely to lose you points.

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It's a gaming term but it didn't start that way... and you are using it wrong. Using noob as an insult is no different to my calling you a spanner as an insult.

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lol i wont put what i want to put as ill get a pm from bctrainer and i dont want that noob.. so i put it like this ..dont camp... hide and play the game right and im civil.. u dont then im calling u a noob...

its not like im takin the wee out of you your mum your dad family..race ..gender.. age anything .. i call u a noob .. MANUP
Ah, so you only insult people a little. Well that's okay then. Why don't you 'man up' and comport yourself like a man rather than using the affectations of a childish brat? Try just not insulting people at all.

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6. if i have got all 3 points then im going to the gate room to push u back .. simple...
So camping is alright in your book if you are doing it? And doing it on the offensive? That's a bit of a double standard don't you think?
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umm.... actually? that was me that posted the link to define "noob" . *hides*
also, i do agree it's about having fun, not winning or losing. if my team loses 160-60 but we all had a good time, i'd consider that a match well spent. HOWEVER! if my team wins 160-158 but it was irritatingly cheap play by the other team, that wasn't a good match.
anyways, back to the ot, i LOVE healin people as a G-man and as a Sci! what makes it even better is that now i actually get points (and therefore exp) for healin mah peeps, so i don't have to worry about "oh noes! the match is almost over and i haven't killed anyone! no points for me!" instead, i can happily sit back and keep my teammates living to kill more EEEEEVILLLLL. i also accept a nice couple of crouches (a'la T-bag) in front of me as a formal thanks, and will respond with either a taunt or jump or crouches myself. yay healing!!
Apologies Daniel_Jackson. I didn't go back to check.

I also encountered a new thank you short hand today from a Jaffa player with the Anubis Guard helmet; lowering it and raising it again.
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LOL! love this ^. i might start doin that now. hopefully they fix the Anubis helmet rendering glitch in the next patch (when jaffa activate the helmet, they vanish on my screen. i just see the weapon. FREAKY)
no worries about that, Scott. in fact... i'm pretty sure that i posted a link that defined it fairly well, and then right under that someone posted the link to UrbanDictionary (i didn't want to, because well... it's like Wikipedia only less reputable. people can put WHATEVER they want) *runs to go check*
ahah, i was kinda right. i posted The Etymology of "Noob" and then 3 posts later TheMadDoctor posted the link to urbandictionary's, um, "definition".
(on another topic, you don't need to put my full name when referring to/talking to me, i'm fine with just "Jackson" or even "Doc")
by the by guys... can we get OFF of the topic of what/who is "noobish"? i swear, that comes up more often than a boner in a strip club. BACK TO THANKING HEALERS!!!!! (yay G-men and Scis!)
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Here here Scott, well said as always

Barrier, my personal opinion of Players who call others noobs are noobs themselves

Only true Players (Elite) don't use that term

Oh yeah and thank you to healers (especially Goa'uld healers ).
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Out of all the ppl I have healed in the past, Realaz has to be the most annoying, Razzle (as I like to call them) always runs past all the Scis, Turrets, Snipers and Soldiers to the other side of the map, to right outside the opposition spawn doors and then shouts ...I NEED HEALING!!

Meaning I have to risk my life travelling all that bloody way to heal them!! >_<

I swear Razzle just does it to annoy me sometimes
When I do that, I don't mean for you to come to the other end of the map . I am just informing all that I need healing (even if there aren't any Goooold). If you're in the area of course, I'll take the heal.
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Yep it's always good idea to call for a heal just in case there is someone close by that can help you. Or, you could play like me and just charge the enemy lines in a near death berserker fueled haze. The latter usually results in death but the hilarious ragdolls are worth it. So remember healers, only YOU can prevent violent berserker deaths!
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Yep it's always good idea to call for a heal just in case there is someone close by that can help you. Or, you could play like me and just charge the enemy lines in a near death berserker fueled haze. The latter usually results in death but the hilarious ragdolls are worth it. So remember healers, only YOU can prevent violent berserker deaths!
indeed, when i am near death with no healers in sight, i just make a brutal thrust into an enemy stronghold, hoping to take some tau'ri scum with me to he11...
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indeed, when i am near death with no healers in sight, i just make a brutal thrust into an enemy stronghold, hoping to take some tau'ri scum with me to he11...
And I yell no wait blevok into TS but you're not there to hear it =/

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And I yell no wait blevok into TS but you're not there to hear it =/

yes yes, i know everyone hates me because i don't use ts. unfortunately, when i play i usually can't make noise and my ears need to be available for other things. so that not only means i can't use ts, but also that my game audio is completely off. but when one sense is lost, others are enhanced... plus, as a vulcan, i mean a jaffa, i posess many times the strength and coordination of normal man, so even though i am deaf and can't speak, you should still watch your back...and your front, cause i'm coming for you.

to be clear though, i never take the previously described action when it is strategically unsound, like for instance when the tau'ri are near victory. in that case, i'll go back and try to do some damage from a distance, and wait for a heal, or for my comrades to secure the victory.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:45 PM   #47
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I often play with just one headphone ear so I can hear RL things as well, but I realize it's not feasible for everyone
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:58 PM   #48
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I'd like to say a big thanks to Flint and Amnesia for the great team healing they did this evening.

It's was a pleasant surprise to call for a heal and actually have someone turn up, actually made the game playable and winable.

Makes a change from the usual games where I'm wandering around with my 10hp calling for a heal to no avail.
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Old 10-05-2010, 10:41 PM   #49
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If im being healed and there is no action about i will kneel before my god and reveal myself to him (or her).

edit: That just dont sound right I will lower my helmet guard. lol
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Old 10-05-2010, 10:43 PM   #50
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I'd like to say a big thanks to Flint and Amnesia for the great team healing they did this evening.

It's was a pleasant surprise to call for a heal and actually have someone turn up, actually made the game playable and winable.

Makes a change from the usual games where I'm wandering around with my 10hp calling for a heal to no avail.
Hear hear.
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